A GEORGE III SILVER OVAL KETTLE ON STAND BY JOHN EDWARDS III LONDON 1810 With a wicker wrapped loop handle, a lobed oval finial to the domed cover and engraved with an armorial, on an oval stand above a burner on four lion paw feet, 41cm (16in) high, 2518g (80.95 oz) gross Condition Report: Quite a long story here but I feel I must tell you a little about the journey to the identification. Clearly the quality of image makes it possible to easily identify the paternal arms as belonging to the RAMSDEN family of Yorkshire and the maternal arms for the BALFOUR family of Fife. Impaled arms, of the type we have here, allow the heraldry to identify a specific person (a man and his wife). An extensive search of all RAMSDEN family pedigrees cannot identify a marriage between a male RAMSDEN and a female BALFOUR. The additional information supplied by the crest and the motto confirms that the paternal family are RAMSDEN and the lack of any differencing in the RAMSDEN arms should confirm that the combination of arms belongs to an heir of the RAMSDEN family. A search of the arms of all heirs of the family from 1600 provides no maternal arms that are even close to the maternal arms that you have in your image. So what has happened? A wider search of other RAMSDEN family members identifies a significant marriage between the RAMSDEN family and FULLERTON family. Significant in that the FULLERTON family arms differs from the maternal arms in your image in that the otter's heads should be gules (red) and indicated by vertical shading, instead of sable (black) indicated by hatched shading in your image. This I believe is an engraving error. I am happy to identify the owner of the arms as George RAMSDEN (born 1796) of The Priory, Conisbrough, Yorkshire who in 1825 married Anna FULLERTON (1803-1837) daughter of John FULLERTON of Thryburgh Park, Yorkshire. Clearly the date of marriage post dates the assay date of 1810, but I don't think this is an issue. The blazon: argent, on a chevron between three fleurs de lis azure, as many rams heads erased of the field (Ramsden) - impaling - argent, a chevron sable between three otter's heads gules (your image shows sable) (Fullerton) Crest: a cubit arm erect, vested and cuffed holding in the hand a fleur de lis azure (Ramsden) Motto: AUDACES FORTUNA JUVAT George RAMSDEN was the son of Revd. John RAMSDEN (1763-1807), rector of Compton Yorkshire by Frances Elizabeth COOKE (1771-1843) daughter of John COOKE of Heath Hall Yorkshire. His grandfather Robert RAMSDEN (1708-1769) of Osberton, Nottinghamshire was the fifth son of William RAMSDEN (1672-1736), 2nd Baronet of Byrom Yorkshire by Elizabeth LOWTHER daughter of John LOWTHER 1st Viscount Lonsdale. Condition Report Disclaimer
A GEORGE III SILVER OVAL KETTLE ON STAND BY JOHN EDWARDS III LONDON 1810 With a wicker wrapped loop handle, a lobed oval finial to the domed cover and engraved with an armorial, on an oval stand above a burner on four lion paw feet, 41cm (16in) high, 2518g (80.95 oz) gross Condition Report: Quite a long story here but I feel I must tell you a little about the journey to the identification. Clearly the quality of image makes it possible to easily identify the paternal arms as belonging to the RAMSDEN family of Yorkshire and the maternal arms for the BALFOUR family of Fife. Impaled arms, of the type we have here, allow the heraldry to identify a specific person (a man and his wife). An extensive search of all RAMSDEN family pedigrees cannot identify a marriage between a male RAMSDEN and a female BALFOUR. The additional information supplied by the crest and the motto confirms that the paternal family are RAMSDEN and the lack of any differencing in the RAMSDEN arms should confirm that the combination of arms belongs to an heir of the RAMSDEN family. A search of the arms of all heirs of the family from 1600 provides no maternal arms that are even close to the maternal arms that you have in your image. So what has happened? A wider search of other RAMSDEN family members identifies a significant marriage between the RAMSDEN family and FULLERTON family. Significant in that the FULLERTON family arms differs from the maternal arms in your image in that the otter's heads should be gules (red) and indicated by vertical shading, instead of sable (black) indicated by hatched shading in your image. This I believe is an engraving error. I am happy to identify the owner of the arms as George RAMSDEN (born 1796) of The Priory, Conisbrough, Yorkshire who in 1825 married Anna FULLERTON (1803-1837) daughter of John FULLERTON of Thryburgh Park, Yorkshire. Clearly the date of marriage post dates the assay date of 1810, but I don't think this is an issue. The blazon: argent, on a chevron between three fleurs de lis azure, as many rams heads erased of the field (Ramsden) - impaling - argent, a chevron sable between three otter's heads gules (your image shows sable) (Fullerton) Crest: a cubit arm erect, vested and cuffed holding in the hand a fleur de lis azure (Ramsden) Motto: AUDACES FORTUNA JUVAT George RAMSDEN was the son of Revd. John RAMSDEN (1763-1807), rector of Compton Yorkshire by Frances Elizabeth COOKE (1771-1843) daughter of John COOKE of Heath Hall Yorkshire. His grandfather Robert RAMSDEN (1708-1769) of Osberton, Nottinghamshire was the fifth son of William RAMSDEN (1672-1736), 2nd Baronet of Byrom Yorkshire by Elizabeth LOWTHER daughter of John LOWTHER 1st Viscount Lonsdale. Condition Report Disclaimer
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